No link found between vaccine mercury and autism

Mercury and other additives have been taken out of vaccines anyway,

there are still people and children who will not be able to take them for allergic reasons,

there are also a group of peoplw who will never be convinved that Autism is not caused by the vaccines, just like people who say global waming is a lie!

Please vaccinate your children so we do not see a resurgance of preventable illnesses in our life time, and to protect the people who are in poor health or other children who will be exposed by ignorance!

not sure where you get your data but Thiemerosol is a mercury containing preservative required to be in medicine

At concentrations found in vaccines, thimerosal meets the requirements for a preservative as set forth by the United States Pharmacopeia; that is, it kills the specified challenge organisms and is able to prevent the growth of the challenge fungi (U.S. Pharmacopeia 2004). Thimerosal in concentrations of 0.001% (1 part in 100,000) to 0.01% (1 part in 10,000) has been shown to be effective in clearing a broad spectrum of pathogens. A vaccine containing 0.01% thimerosal as a preservative contains 50 micrograms of thimerosal per 0.5 mL dose or approximately 25 micrograms of mercury per 0.5 mL dose.

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228

link to above excerpt above, the article also mentions thimerosol free vaccines contain trace amounts of theimerosol..

but get vaccines, there is no danger to adults and the study shows it was a myth about autism,, I just got a TDaP

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

Here is a list of vaccines and the ingredients. What I should have said was every effort has been made to remove or reduce the additives and mercury.

I still believe that the vaccines are best, and those who never have seen things like the terrible effects of polio do not realize what harm may come to their children or others!

and those who never have seen things like the terrible effects of polio do not realize what harm may come to their children or others!

Are you saying that if they don't vaccinate that they will get polio, become paralyzed, or die?

I think he is saying science has given us a way to eradicate diseases that used to kill many many people. Eradicating disease is not a bad thing.

vaccines have only supressed disease among the innoculated, and that yes, the un-vaccinated do risk disease to themselves and others that are un-vaccinated, and the risks of disease for most people tend to outweigh the risks from the vaccines themselves. so which would you rather, a child with polio or autism? measels/death or autism? there is no proof of actual danger either way, but why risk the many things that could cause DEATH, with the risks of Autism.... to me it's a simple answer, but then I have a pemanant dime sized scar on my shoulder.. so I'm kinda biased

and the risks of disease for most people tend to outweigh the risks from the vaccines themselves. so which would you rather, a child with polio or autism? measels/death or autism?

Neither proposition is viable. Wrong question. Are you saying that if one gets the vaccine that they will get autism. Or are you saying that if one doesn't get the vaccine then they will get a disease and die?

Neither proposition is scientific or evidence based. There must be an alternative that you failed to mention.

One is unlikely to get autism regardless, but if they get vaccinated there is no hard proof that they will necessarily be any more likely - if they do not get vaccinated they will not necessarily get anything, but they increase the risk to both themselves and others that they might.

One is unlikely to get autism regardless, but if they get vaccinated there is no hard proof that they will necessarily be any more likely -

Really? You have the SECRET study that compares the health of the vaccinated vs. the unvaccinated? The one that big PHARMA, CDC, and their minions say CANNOT be done?

I honestly don't know what you're implying there.

If you get vaccinated there is no evidence that it causes you to be more likely to be autistic. You are not likely to get it, in any case, however. If you get vaccinated for X (ie pertussis), chances improve that you will not get X, but it will not likely be 100%. If you do not get vaccinated for X, you are at an increased chance of getting X, and also increase the chance that X will spread through the community, rather than being stopped in its tracks.

I honestly don't know what you're implying there.

I understand you are new to this debate.

If you get vaccinated there is no evidence that it causes you to be more likely to be autistic

.So you can supply us with the reference that show the correct controlled trial of unvaccinated vs. vaccinated?

I'll clue you in. It doesn't exist yet. You're welcome to prove me wrong. You are repeating what you've heard without understanding exactly what you've read. Meaning you've been spoon fed a conclusion that doesn't exist.

You are not likely to get it, in any case, however. If you get vaccinated for X (ie pertussis), chances improve that you will not get X, but it will not likely be 100%. If you do not get vaccinated for X, you are at an increased chance of getting X, and also increase the chance that X will spread through the community, rather than being stopped in its tracks.

Nice simplified version. What do you tell the vaccinated person who gets mumps or pertussis? That they HAD a much greater chance of not getting the mumps? What do you tell the person who doesn't get influenza in 20 years and never had the vaccine? That their chances would be even better with the vaccine?

I understand you are new to this debate.

I'm not, no.

So you can supply us with the reference that show the correct controlled trial of unvaccinated vs. vaccinated?

There have been numerous studies. Wakefield has been disgraced. I understand this is not enough for you.

Do you have any evidence that it does?

Nice simplified version.

That's all it was intended to be.

What do you tell the vaccinated person who gets mumps or pertussis?

Precisely what I said above: it is not a 100% guarantee.

There have been numerous studies.

so let's see them so they can be picked apart for not being what I asked.

Let me repeat. There is NO study comparing the health of the unvaccinated vs. vaccinated. It doesn't exist. Even though it would be the most scientific study to date it has been deemed unethical by the vaccinating powers that be.

Frankly I think they are afraid of what it will do to the vaccine program.

I realize it's not what you've asked, but what you've asked for is by no means the only way to pursue this body of knowledge. I find the present studies to be valid, for me. If that is not what you need to be personally convinced, good on you. And I mean that. We all have our own boundaries, expectations, and requirements. I am very pro-vaccination. My personal expectations have been met. I don't mind anyone else pushing for their own, however.

My personal expectations have been met. I don't mind anyone else pushing for their own, however.

That's all I ask. I can respect that.

risks of disease for most people tend to outweigh the risks from the vaccine

nope didn't forget any options, it's all personal risk assement since like you pointed out the obvious there are no studies from which to make a scientific decision. but let me out line them againg

1 known risks from diseases - continure without vaccine ( depends on your possible exposeure to any illness on if you should get the shots )

2 vaccines reduce risk #1 by teaching the body how to overcome the disease - which in turn carries it's own risks ( allergic reaction - infection of the diease - UNKNOWN possible side effects- however unlikely )

3. no choice yet. but it would be eradication of the disease itself. but we are finding. that if we stop the vaccines, the disease returns.. (polio)

for example, if you are traveling out of the country, you get shots for things that you could catch abroad... it would be stupid to decide to get those shots if you are never going out of your house... also, if you live in a plastic bubble, you would never need any shot...

so the decision to get a shot CANNOT be scientificly concluded yes or no.. it is very SUBJECTIVE.

however, SCIENCE HAS SHOWN that certain vaccines reduce infection levels of certains disease in known infectious situations ie kids in schools - german measels - mandatory shots has wiped this out.. polio also gone! tetnus.. shots work...

these shots shouln't have to be mandated... because it's clear everyone SHOULD get them... but when everyone doesn't people others can get sick... and actually that should be the mandate, that if you don't get a shot and get sick, you must quaranteen yourself, so as to not infect others, but anyway flu shots, and the ever mutating flu virus.. is a different story...

Robert, there have beendata pulled from other countries that keep track of all of a children's health. They were able to graph and show different %'s of children who were or were not vaccinated and there was no difference in the autism rates. Look on PBS, there was a show that gave equal time to both sides. Also a doctor who had presented a study that supposedly linked autism to vaccines has since been disproved and showed that his study was NOT done correctly.

Robert, there have beendata pulled from other countries that keep track of all of a children's health. They were able to graph and show different %'s of children who were or were not vaccinated and there was no difference in the autism rates.

Except you didn't read that study. You're either going on heresay or you didn't understand the study.The children were not "unvaccinated". They didn't have the MMR vaccine.

Look on PBS, there was a show that gave equal time to both sides.

Equal time? They pitted mothers against doctors to set up a educated vs. too stupid emotional and selfish scenario. It was a propaganda piece that failed to show the interviews of the doctors who opposed or had safety questions about vaccines.